lucetilogs | Science club meeting the second

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Science club meeting the second

Who: SHELL members, newcomers, and interlopers.
What: Second meeting of the Scientists, Hypothesizers, and Engineers of Luceti League.
When: An announcement at about 10:00 this morning, with the meeting occurring at noon.
Where: At the rec center.
Summary: Those geeks are at it again.
Rating: They are very civil intellectual types.

Voice | Filtered to Members of SHELL, and Others Who Were Interested * | Unhackable

SHELL meeting today. Noon, the rec center. Please remember it's secret.

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[Once everyone has arrived, and newcomers have been invited to introduce themselves, Don will start the discussion.]

The moonfall. Was any of that real?

((* As before, the filter is IC-only. If you want your character to attend uninvited, feel free to have them cleverly discover, or accidentally stumble across, the meeting.))

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[It's not a surprise to see Robert here. He lives for this sort of thing - communication with fellow scientists and intellectuals. Plus it's his partner's own science club - and Robert figures he may have to take the reins eventually during the winter, so he might as well show up for all the meetings...

The question at hand, though, raises many important issues.]

I... a-am rather of the opinion that... m-much of the enclosure of Luceti is, er, a-artificial in nature...

...

S-Strictly speaking, the... e-entire thing could have been simulated. B-But, without knowing the... e-extent of Malnossian technology, it is... difficult to say to what degree...

[Despite Eggman's spirits being repeatedly crushed lately, he hasn't given up his faith in science. He'll keep coming to SHELL, if only for the information the others hold, although he has been realising teamwork may be important lately.]

That all depends on how you define a simulation, Hastings! There are, of course, simulations such as the Battle Dome - mere illusion which we know can extend outside of the Dome's facilities.

Of course, I've no doubt that the moon was artificial, but it was definitely solid. I fired enough shells at it to know that.

[Just. Watching the entire group with this look. The jury's still out on whether or not this whole thing is even going to be worth his time. He isn't holding his breath. HE'S IRON MAN, KIDDOS. Clearly, he has better things to do than to play with the boy scouts.

But he'll still wait and see what they have to say. Just to be sure. Before he shares any of his own theories.]

[She glances at the group. Many of those of last time, with a new addition: Tony Stark. Her visor looks at him sideways for long instant, not unaware of his doubts.

Stay in here. This will all be worth it. I promise.]

Do we know how much of our actions took effect in the environment, and on ourselves, after the moon vanished?

[If it was not an illusion, shifting may be a whole lot more powerful than she had imagined.]

[Edward is able to attend this time, rather than Winry in his place; he's making note of the attendees (taking a moment to glower awkwardly in Tony's direction while he's at it) as well as, more importantly, the topic of conversation. Since the moonfall he'd given what was happening a lot of thought, and while he's used to working solo or strictly with Alphonse, there's no real harm in hearing other theories.]

There hasn't been any signs that what happened, or what we did to stop it, changed a thing. And why would there be? If you think about it, the enclosure itself is a large-scale battle dome. Illusions are given physical form- when an enemy hits you there, you feel it. If you get a mortal wound, it hurts, but you won't die- the room just shuts down. Why wouldn't the same rules apply in the whole of Luceti? The moon fell and we "died", but we didn't die because the program ended. Everything's a blank slate again.

Or did we die? We already know our deaths here can be reversed. The simulations in the battle dome don't seem to be the same as the Shifts that occur here during experiments, as we could all see when the Battle Dome's simulations "escaped". At least, the critters that appeared during that little incident seemed a lot more like holograms to me.

You could argue that we're all inside a simulation not unlike the Dome's facilities, but that's a metaphysical argument I don't think any of us want to get into.

[Don listens to these suggestions, then gestures to the anonymous newcomer and says:] I think he's onto something. Luceti is like a Battle Dome, only a much more powerful one than what we have access to. It's capable of creating real objects - or, at least, highly realistic holograms - and it can directly affect the people inside the simulation.

[He leans back, thinking.] It's possible they gave us the Battle Dome to see what we would do with similar technology. Though I'm sure no one's surprised they're only letting us play with the simplified version.

[All very logical points. There are definitely parallels between the technology of the Battle Dome and the enclosure itself.]

... We kn-know the main... property of Lucetian technology is Shifting... wh-which seems to manifest itself in various and h-highly diversified ways. If Shifting is... r-responsible for the majority of the f-functions of both the enclosure and the Battle Dome, o-one wonders exactly what differences there are b-between the two...

[His tone grows more serious, then.] ... To our s-senses, the colliding o-object appeared to... penetrate the barrier. The question is wh-whether that itself was... merely a hologram, or whether it was i-indeed an outside influence.

... Did a-anybody attempt to breach the barrier wh-whilst the object was passing through it?

Edited 2011-11-11 16:08 (UTC)

[Eggman won't respond, just look really irritated that he didn't try that.]

[Donatello did invite Yellow to come to the meeting, so here she is! Very much on the confused side though, since she really doesn't understand much of what was going on that week at all. So she's just watching and listening to what everyone has to say. Buuut she does pipe in after hearing the question.]

Um, I didn't really see anyone trying to do that; the most I saw was people trying to stop the moon from falling.

[The armored person turns to the newcomer. She remembers the many that tried it.]

I was doing service duties when the moon breached it.

[She heard the possibility of it being and illusion, and she knew it would have been useless to go to the caves if the moon was real. But she decided to help as many as she could to transport resources and send them to the caves.

A part of her feels regret for not having taken the chance to explore the outside of the barrier. Not that leaving her crew here would have made it easier to sleep at night.]

Something like a Battle Dome Sim... A more solid moon... It's a good guess.

[SPARTAN-023 takes a deep breath inside her armor before she addresses this matter. There would be a lot to learn in the following days. With her unofficial entry into SHELL and the kidnappings of both Robert and Donatello, the Malnosso may have a hint of what she knows.

She looks at Robert and Donatello with long stares, regretting the incidents of the last days. Then, at Stark, before she speaks.]

Missions have just begun. [She remembers Sokka's post.] The Malnosso right now depend on us to run things from small errands, to dangerous assignments. Many of them that could be of classified nature, related to the other regions, or even to their own organization.

I don't hold my breath that they'll get as careless as last time.

[Her visor sets on Stark, knowing what he had wanted since he had first arrived into Luceti. After a pause, the air around her neck hisses when she presses two locks on the back of her helmet, and she removes it, to set it in front of Stark.

While she refers to the group, her blue eyes continue to look at him.]

But I wonder we should post about the droids over the locked network.

[Everything Stark wanted to know, is now in that helmet, waiting for him to put it on. With the ability to build a suit, she damn well hopes her choice is correct.]

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What?! [Eggman pipes up.] Post such valuable information on the locked network where any idiot could see it? Absolutely not! You don't really believe the Malnosso can't access it, do you? Besides, what about that John fellow who monitors it?!

((OOC note: I meant to write "But I wonder if we should post about the droids over the locked network.", but I am an idiot.))

There's still intel that they don't know about - That they don't know they could get out of people from the kidnappings. Doesn't look like they interrogate people.

[Her voice is neutral, but she closes her eyes to avoid the sight of the group. Four members of this group had been kidnapped, and three of them saw the intel about the droids.]

I'm asking this because someone could get their hands on a droid, and it wouldn't be someone from this group. But it's still sensitive intel.

[The Spartan does see where he's coming from. She reacted the same way when she heard about the possibility of her group going public for morale.]

[Robert is partially ashamed about this. He wonders, perhaps, if part of the reason he was taken was because of this, or whether it was entirely unrelated...]

I w-was... uncertain whether the Malnosso were capable of... picking through our minds at will to begin with.

...

At first I... th-thought it feasible, simply due to experiments, but... [Awkwardly:] ... It has become obvious that we are aware of th-things that... that they would rather us not be.

[... Which begs the question of how exactly the Shifts do their work...]

... Distributing the information could... p-potentially prove useful, but at the same time... it is a significant risk.

We can't really be certain what the Malnosso know of our minds. They certainly seem to know us well to make their experiments suitably ironic at times. I don't recall being interrogated during my time in their cells, but who knows what effects their drugs had?

Hm. I'm still against the idea, but perhaps we should discuss how we would present the information were we to post it to the comms. What is our goal in doing this?

If they interrogated us, they wouldn't need the Information missions. They would already know what's in the locked network. And we're not even counting the Rogue Faction.

[She pauses to think. They knew of her first home. They knew about her sister. Were the shifts and experiments independent from the actions of the Malnosso? She knows there is severe division within the Malnosso, so do they all know only parts of the truth?]

What I want is to keep options open in case someone else finds shifting tech. But he'd need to spread the information somehow... and could screw up.

Rem was found out because of that.

[Because people didn't know to keep their mouths shut. She remembers old lessons: Secrets are lives.]

Perhaps what we need is a way for the villagers to be aware what information we have without actually posting the information itself publicly across the network? Or at least try and ensure they know who to come to with shifting tech...

[Don shifts uncertainly. On the one hand, advertising their mission could help ensure that important information is funnelled to the people who are best equipped to study it. On the other hand, all his instincts are telling him to remain secretive about this work.]

[After the meeting is officially over, Tony will hang around. But just for a minute. He did hear some interesting things--he'll give them that. But he isn't here to make chums and there aren't even any refreshments. Sheesh, way to skimp out on the real reason he came, everyone.

Catch him before he leaves, but you'd better be quick.]

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hello am I late :'|a

Hello. You are probably not. Did you bring pizza?

Much later on.

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